Audio In this episode of the Pen and Sword podcast from Stratfor, a RANE company, Emily Donahue speaks with Jessica Goudeau, who has written the story of two women and their experiences as refugees in America. Mu Naw (a pseudonym) is a refugee from Myanmar who arrives in 2007, while nearly 10 years later, Hasna (also a pseudonym) arrives after fleeing from Syria. The two women have vastly different experiences; Goudeau details the intricacies and geopolitics of the U.S. refugee program. Goudreau's book is titled After the Last Border: Two Families and the Story of Refuge in America. Subscribe to the Stratfor Podcast wherever you listen, including: Apple Podcasts .